I Wanna Get Lost In Your Rock N Roll (6053 hits)
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Submitted by Bart Cilfone <uberuser.at.cilfone.com> (View user info) at 2007-10-29 21:28:10 EDT
So I have some very exciting news...
For those of you that don't know, I am technically unemployed right now. I had spent almost 7 years working at a company called FullAudio that changed its name to MusicNow that then got bought by Circuit City and then by AOL. After about a year working for AOL, I simultaneously quit and got laid off with my last day on the job being February 15, 2007. For the past 8 months, I've been out on my own, no direction home, primarily doing a combination of traveling and working on a new website.
Holy shit, a new website?!? How do I sign up and pay you lots of money?
Glad you asked.
The new website is called UBER.FM. It's a site that allows anyone to upload music for the rest of the world to enjoy and to be compensated ($$$) for the use of that music. It's a little bit like Ubersite for music, Myspace that isn't crap, and YouTube for original material. It's not a clone of anything and as far as I know, there's nothing out there that does the exact same thing.
First off, the name is UBER.FM in all caps. The URL is http://uber.fm . There's Ubersite and UBER.FM and they are separate websites similar enough in name to be similar, but different enough to be different. The sites will use different user accounts and I don't have any plans to change Ubersite in any significant way to integrate with UBER.FM just yet.
UBER.FM is also a pay site. I hate ads, so there are no ads, but money needs to come from somewhere to pay for the site and to compensate the musicians. The result is that the whole thing is fronted by a very inexpensive membership fee. You can sign up and use the site without paying anything, but in order to upload music or to play/download full length songs, you need to pay the membership fee.
There are a lot of cool things available on the site for musicians. You can upload photos, you can enter all kinds of information about your music making your portion of the site into a personal blog, you can enter dates for any upcoming or past live shows, and more. I've kept with the Ubersite philosophy that the author retains ownership of all the rights to the work with the most notable difference being that on UBER.FM musicians can take their music off the site or change the information that's made public at any time, no questions asked.
Why the hell are you telling me this and aren't you going to post any camwhore pictures of yourself?
All in good time dear friends.
The reason why I'm telling you this is that the site is almost empty. I am looking for people who make original music and are willing to upload it to the new website. The only criteria is that it's original - it can be cleanly produced CD quality material or something that was recorded in your basement last night. The music can be of any style or genre and for that matter it doesn't need to be "music" - spoken word, poetry, stand up comedy, or any other kind of audio can be uploaded.
I should put that again in bold for the people skimming over the text...
If you record your own original music, go to UBER.FM now, sign up, and upload your music!
I think this idea is absolutely and positively The Future. I may not be the one to make it work, but somebody will do it and it will truly kick ass. There's no risk to the musicians beyond the standard membership fee but there is a lot of upside potential. Why record great music only to let Myspace and Rupert Murdoch keep all the money made from distributing it?
Anywhos, anyone who wants to check it out can do so at http://uber.fm . If you aren't a musician, there's very little reason to sign up right now as there are only a few people who have uploaded things so far - me, Captain Thorns, and ETS. You can still sign up if you want and I'll gladly accept any payments you make, but in all honesty it's a little sparse right now to get a lot of value out of it as a listener / music downloader.
I'm interested in any comments anyone has, so feel free to leave them on this post.
And now for aforepromised camwhore...
User Reviews
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2007-12-19 16:58:49 EST (#)
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Darko, dude, how'd you lose them in the first place? And why has this become such a huge issue?
A lot of people don't know that I was banned for half an hour once in 2005. I e-mailed bart and asked him to unban me and he said okay.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2007-12-19 01:42:42 EST (#)
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bart, can I have my ratings back for christmas?
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2007-12-19 01:38:49 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Gotta say I like Bartemian Rhapsody and ETS's version of Lithium.
But all that's gonna do is make me listen to my Queen and Nirvana CDs.
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2007-12-17 22:40:53 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
"Can I borrow a bus ticket?"
"What for?"
"I'm all out and I want to go see my girlfriend."
"LOVE ISN'T ABOUT THE BUS."
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2007-12-17 22:40:18 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2007-12-09 20:11:22 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-11-16 18:20:44 EST (#)
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Submitted by Progr3ss (user info) at 2007-11-16 05:20:05 CST (#)
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Music is not about money bart.
Neither is life.
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Right, but somebody eventually has to pay the rent. Saying "it's not about the money" isn't some kind of moral high ground, it's just a statement that you're willing to work for free.
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Cheers.
Submitted by netimportant (user info) at 2007-12-16 23:56:01 EST (#)
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Ron Poop
Submitted by haikumikoo (user info) at 2007-12-12 03:03:30 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Ubersite is generally a good thing, but it's important to note that since it is free, I have no incentive to keep it running other than because I want to do so. The day the site becomes boring for me, there's no reason why I couldn't just shut it down and disappear. If I were making money on the site, well then I would have two incentives - entertainment and money. I'm not planning on shutting anything down, but my point is that economics and the exchange of money for goods and services should not be viewed as an inherently bad thing. If there is a target goal for a common good, using money to incent people towards that goal is a fine application of capitalism.
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Yeah, ok, that makes sense.
But answer this:
What the fuck were you doing on the internet that led you to Dog Armor?
I just realized that's a really stupid question, being that B@W sites are submitted by other people.
Yet, for some reason, I'm still going to press this button.
Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2007-12-09 20:11:22 EST (#)
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Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-11-16 18:20:44 EST (#)
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Submitted by Progr3ss (user info) at 2007-11-16 05:20:05 CST (#)
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Music is not about money bart.
Neither is life.
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Right, but somebody eventually has to pay the rent. Saying "it's not about the money" isn't some kind of moral high ground, it's just a statement that you're willing to work for free.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-11-26 10:19:16 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
you have good ideas. you should work in marketting and sell bullshit.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2007-11-26 10:06:40 EST (#)
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Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-11-26 07:12:16 EST (#)
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but keep in mind i had a pair of three's preflop...
oh jesus I think you all are thinking too much about this. The point is I BITCH-SLAPPED PHIL IN FRONT OF HIS OWN MOTHER.
PS: Give Darko his ratings back.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2007-11-21 03:17:00 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
It isn't too late to sell ubersite to Apollo.
Submitted by Bob_Dole (user info) at 2007-11-18 07:08:11 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Gotta love how almost all of the Captain Thorns tracks are labeled "explicit". When I first heard Shenanigan Pie I didn't think it was all that explicit... if anything it's metaphorically enlightening.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2007-11-16 20:49:06 EST (#)
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I'll tell all my buddies about it. Nashville's full of people who'd be into this.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2007-11-16 20:48:05 EST (#)
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you look like my brother in law.
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-11-16 18:20:44 EST (#)
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Submitted by Progr3ss (user info) at 2007-11-16 05:20:05 CST (#)
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Music is not about money bart.
Neither is life.
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Right, but somebody eventually has to pay the rent. Saying "it's not about the money" isn't some kind of moral high ground, it's just a statement that you're willing to work for free.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-11-16 06:35:56 EST (#)
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Submitted by Progr3ss (user info) at 2007-11-16 06:20:05 EST (#)
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Music is not about money bart.
Neither is life.
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Get a haircut you Goddamned hippie!
Submitted by Progr3ss (user info) at 2007-11-16 06:20:05 EST (#)
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Music is not about money bart.
Neither is life.
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-11-15 04:49:44 EST (#)
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Yes, give your music away for free. The more free stuff you give away, the more money you make. That's some solid economic thinking.
Submitted by Progr3ss (user info) at 2007-11-14 06:52:40 EST (#)
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Attention anyone from Australia that doesn't want to pay to upload your songs:
http://www.triplejunearthed.com/
If your any good you'll get air-time on JJJ and maybe a record deal.
End.
Submitted by Mike-Mc (user info) at 2007-11-09 10:18:58 EST (#)
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:*(
Submitted by Wildman (user info) at 2007-11-05 21:05:09 EST (#)
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i think you should shut down uber for two weeks just for the hell of it
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-11-05 20:22:01 EST (#)
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Did this new web site throw in the towel yet, bart?
Somehow, I'm not convinced there's a big marketplace for ETS's music...maybe that's just me though.
No, it's not just me. I checked.
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-11-05 19:34:49 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-10-30 22:08:40 EDT (#)
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Ubersite is generally a good thing, but it's important to note that since it is free, I have no incentive to keep it running other than because I want to do so. The day the site becomes boring for me, there's no reason why I couldn't just shut it down and disappear.
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hahaha you buried the lead.
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2007-11-03 10:06:07 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
cool site.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2007-11-02 20:56:23 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 18:23:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-10-30 17:25:18 EDT (#)
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It occurred to me that if an artist signed up for the site and paid $5 / month, if they played nothing at all other than their own things, they would get back about $4 / month in royalties from themselves with the difference there being payment processing fees and the "house cut". End of the day, you could get it down to $1 / month if you really don't want to spend much money.
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So I was right?!!!
Not because I'm special, but because I am capable of actually using my brain, unlike some of these ninnies who whine about $5. :)
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Dear Strwbry: Show us yer ninnies. :)
Submitted by shadow (user info) at 2007-11-02 11:03:07 EDT (#)
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hmmm, Bart singing.
Bart doesn't have to sing, all he has to do is speak and that sweet sweet bass will make the panties drop.
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2007-11-02 02:04:40 EDT (#)
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i would upload some of my original stuff to uber.fm but i'm afraid of what would happen.
i mean, it's so good, it would probably make your fucking heads blow off!
it's pure magic when i play guitar. maybe if you are all lucky, i will upload my cover of "Paddywagon Rape" by X-Cops. or if you are really lucky, i will break out my fretless bass and lay down a bassline so smooth it will cause fluid to come out of whatever orifice you have between your legs.
Submitted by ilikesteak (user info) at 2007-11-02 01:21:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-11-01 17:24:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 05:10:40 CDT (#)
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First of all, I don't think "aforepromised" is a recognized word.. Secondly, you meant "forepromised." Actually, I don't know, who cares!
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See, I unbanned you for a reason.
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And yet you won't give darko back his ratings. I even asked nicely.
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-11-01 17:24:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 05:10:40 CDT (#)
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First of all, I don't think "aforepromised" is a recognized word.. Secondly, you meant "forepromised." Actually, I don't know, who cares!
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See, I unbanned you for a reason.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2007-10-31 20:51:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:15:13 EDT (#)
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DO YOU HAVE NAVY SEALS?????
Apparently it's mentioned above. I don't do the whole "read the post thing." I just ask questions.
Nevermind.
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You don't read the posts, and you ignore the comments.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-10-31 20:30:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by netimportant (user info) at 2007-10-31 17:21:30 EDT (#)
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Oh, Bartsy! You built these websites all by yourself? Your brain must be SO BIG. I bet you get all the girls on the Internet.
You're the master of the web, take me now!
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v2.0?
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-31 20:14:59 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Lisa gets me semi-erect when she cuts people...especially bart.
Submitted by netimportant (user info) at 2007-10-31 17:21:30 EDT (#)
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Oh, Bartsy! You built these websites all by yourself? Your brain must be SO BIG. I bet you get all the girls on the Internet.
You're the master of the web, take me now!
Submitted by TigerLilly (user info) at 2007-10-31 13:52:32 EDT (#)
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Comment: You never e-mailed me back.
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2007-10-31 10:52:25 EDT (#)
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Just a further comment on the music quality issue.
Streaming and or playing back through a computer sounds fine in Mp3 128kbps, but if you plan to burn these files to disc, I recommend 320kbps minimum.
For anyone planning on recording stuff at home there is a good amount of relatively cheap eqipment that will record 2 track stereo in WAV format @ 16/44.1 (Which is "redbook" CD standard quality). This can then be converted to FLAC using Traders Little Helper or Flac frontend.
If you playback through a high end audio system it is very possible to hear the difference between a 320kbps and a Flac/wav file.
-Dave
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-10-31 10:20:14 EDT (#)
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Ken, good god, your life sounds like the lyrics to a country song. Are you sure you didn't have access to Cobra insurance or some kind of state funded medicare type thing?
ilikesteak:
You can create an account and look at the site without paying but you will only get 30-second samples when you play things and you can't upload anything.
Files you submit can be any common audio format: flac (lossless compression from wav), mp3, wma, aac. There should not be any technical limitation to the size of the file, but it's possible that a really large file could encounter some kind of network timeout while uploading.
There is no minimum sound quality, although higher is better. 128 kbps is NOT CD quality but it's not too bad. If your recording equipment is crap, there probably won't be much difference between the original audio (wav / flac) and a 128 kbps mp3.
You can configure the playback quality, but it's obviously capped by the quality of the source. You can specify that you want to stream files as anything from 32 to 320 kbps mp3. The system will transencode down from a 320 kbps source to a 96 kbps stream, but if the original source was 96 kbps, then the system won't transencode up to 320 - you'll just get it at 128. If the original source is a lossless flac file and you stream it at 320 kbps, there is absolutely no way a human being would be able to audibly detect any kind of difference in quality.
Submitted by Maddog (user info) at 2007-10-31 09:56:11 EDT (#)
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Original music? Good luck. I was interested until I got to that part.
Submitted by SkinnyKenny (user info) at 2007-10-31 02:35:20 EDT (#)
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Wow. Lotsa big changes. Stressful. I'm at my third job in a year, and I somehow
found the time to fracture and dislocate my tital plateau (top of the Tibia, supporting the padding in the joint of the knee)and rupture the meniscus (the padding) in my knee in the
meantime downhill skiing. The kicker was that it was nine days after the insurance I had
from the job I'd just left had expired. +/-$40K plus on medical bills and no insurance to
cover it. Needless to say. I ain't had a great year. Oh, and I forgot to mention that the girl
I was living with, loved like life itself, and thought I'd spend my life with moved out
with about 1 day's notice aroud the first of Aug. Yeah, this year has been rough.
Nice job on the new site. Congrats. Sounds like a great idea. Who knows, It may even
inspire me to dust off those rusty strings at least one more time.
Coulda done without the camwhore, though... But nonetheless, it's... interesting to see you.
I think....
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 23:57:12 EDT (#)
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Bart...I have to ask you...
How are you *not* bored of Ubersite yet?
I think you're just too lazy to take it down. :p
Submitted by ilikesteak (user info) at 2007-10-30 23:06:07 EDT (#)
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But what about paranoid people like me?
I don't have paypal, and I'm fully willing to pay for this, unless I find out it's awful. How then do I participate?
How do I go about submitting work? Must it be of a specific filetype? Are there length requirements? Is there a size limit to these files?
Must there be any minimum sound quality? You said I could record it in my basement, but with the advent of low cost, high quality home recording equipment, that could mean anything. 128 Kbps is normal CD quality, but what if I can only record at 76?
How is the quality of the playback? Would it be exactly the same as I recorded it, or would it be compressed, and worse than when I played it the first time?
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-10-30 22:08:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-10-30 18:02:51 CDT (#)
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I dunno...coming from the old school of internet users, I really, really dislike paying for a subscription to anything. If ubersite were a pay/subscription site, you would have less than 100 members.
Maybe you can give two or three freebies a month to each account. You know, enough to entice them, but not enough to make your site go broke.
The concept has potential for bar/highschool bands, going on the premise that $5 a month is on par with a cover charge for a live act of that genre.
Although this is a really cool idea, I see this being a labor of love for you.
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I agree somewhat... the idea of paying a subscription fee for things on the internet could be bad. Unfortunately, the reality is that you are already paying for things subconsciously by viewing sites littered with ads. These things are not "free", you just aren't aware of the extent to which you are paying for them. When you see a six year old crying because he wants to go to McDonald's for dinner because the Happy Meal toy is a wind up Spiderman figurine, that's not because he "wants" that, but rather because he's been brainwashed by ads into believing he wants that.
Plus, the idea here is that you're only paying about $0.50 for the "subscription" and then you're paying $4 / month in the form of royalties to a variety of artists. If you don't like their music or you don't want to pay them, there's no reason to sign up for the membership. If they are bands you already like and they are providing a lot of new material that you can get through this site, then there is some threshold at which it magically becomes worth it.
Ubersite is generally a good thing, but it's important to note that since it is free, I have no incentive to keep it running other than because I want to do so. The day the site becomes boring for me, there's no reason why I couldn't just shut it down and disappear. If I were making money on the site, well then I would have two incentives - entertainment and money. I'm not planning on shutting anything down, but my point is that economics and the exchange of money for goods and services should not be viewed as an inherently bad thing. If there is a target goal for a common good, using money to incent people towards that goal is a fine application of capitalism.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-10-30 21:52:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:25:04 EDT (#)
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i don't think there's much incentive right now for artists to sign up then. it could take months and months to get this thing off the ground. why not charge just something really really tiny for a download? ¢10 a song, and you each get a nickel. that's a lot less costly than itunes, enough so i think that cost factor doesn't come into a song. besides, if you allow 30 second samples and we don't hvae to download a whole album i'd be more willing to pay a dime per song than a dollar.
if i had paypal that is.
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Plus if they ever make it big, I am sure whatever record company they cut a deal with won't give them such a good deal if they know all their old songs are already downloadable.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2007-10-30 20:44:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by monkeyswithguns (user info) at 2007-10-30 20:37:17 EDT (#)
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If I can learn how to record some spoken word pieces, maybe some songs as well, perhaps I shall partake in your new site, and pay you some dough.
I like this site very much, thank you for making it and allowing me to join in.
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Buttkisser above--- :) :) :)
:) :)
Submitted by monkeyswithguns (user info) at 2007-10-30 20:37:17 EDT (#)
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If I can learn how to record some spoken word pieces, maybe some songs as well, perhaps I shall partake in your new site, and pay you some dough.
I like this site very much, thank you for making it and allowing me to join in.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2007-10-30 20:13:46 EDT (#)
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Every IDIOT on this site has an opinion, most of them wrong.
Bart, I hope you make a lot of cash. When you do, sell Shlongy to the devil. :)
Submitted by moneyshotforyou (user info) at 2007-10-30 19:36:06 EDT (#)
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1st Installment: http://www.ubersite.com/m/90990
2nd Installment: http://www.ubersite.com/m/91038
3rd Installment: http://www.ubersite.com/m/91101
4th Installment: http://www.ubersite.com/m/91159
5th Installment: http://www.ubersite.com/m/91207
6th Installment: http://www.ubersite.com/m/91233
7th Installment: http://www.ubersite.com/m/91287
Submitted by beat_raven (user info) at 2007-10-30 19:07:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:31:21 EDT (#)
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... But 35+45+25 (which is what I wrote) = 100. :)
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-10-30 19:02:51 EDT (#)
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I dunno...coming from the old school of internet users, I really, really dislike paying for a subscription to anything. If ubersite were a pay/subscription site, you would have less than 100 members.
Maybe you can give two or three freebies a month to each account. You know, enough to entice them, but not enough to make your site go broke.
The concept has potential for bar/highschool bands, going on the premise that $5 a month is on par with a cover charge for a live act of that genre.
Although this is a really cool idea, I see this being a labor of love for you.
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 18:23:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-10-30 17:25:18 EDT (#)
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It occurred to me that if an artist signed up for the site and paid $5 / month, if they played nothing at all other than their own things, they would get back about $4 / month in royalties from themselves with the difference there being payment processing fees and the "house cut". End of the day, you could get it down to $1 / month if you really don't want to spend much money.
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So I was right?!!!
Not because I'm special, but because I am capable of actually using my brain, unlike some of these ninnies who whine about $5. :)
Submitted by DudeThatsBOSH (user info) at 2007-10-30 18:03:32 EDT (#)
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cool
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-10-30 17:25:18 EDT (#)
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Oh, and I kind of forgot that in addition to it being easier for me to use PayPal for billing, that's also how the artists will get paid. If I was billing credit cards directly, then I would need to cut checks and mail them to the artists, meaning I would need to collect address information as well as social security numbers and pass the details on to the IRS. It would also cause a serious problem for people outside the US as I'm pretty sure it's against some kind of money laundering law to mail checks to strangers outside the US as part of a business plan.
It occurred to me that if an artist signed up for the site and paid $5 / month, if they played nothing at all other than their own things, they would get back about $4 / month in royalties from themselves with the difference there being payment processing fees and the "house cut". End of the day, you could get it down to $1 / month if you really don't want to spend much money.
Submitted by ChaosJester (user info) at 2007-10-30 16:29:10 EDT (#)
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YOU MOTOR-BOATIN' SON OF A BITCH!!!
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 16:28:06 EDT (#)
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Please link me that "Crotch kick" on YouTube, will ya?
Thanks.
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-10-30 16:23:15 EDT (#)
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PayPal works all over the world. That's why I used that as opposed to something like Google Payments. I don't know *how* it works outside the US, but I'm guessing it's either based on a credit card or tie in to a checking account.
Part of the goal for the project was to make it usable world wide. There are no "US only" restrictions and you could upload music and enter information in any language you want as long as it can be represented in Unicode.
If you think that people wouldn't be willing to pay $5 a month for music, let me reference my anecdote about going to a bar and paying $4 to get in... if you are the kind of person who goes to a bar to watch a band and then gets to the doorman and says "Awwww, $4 is too much, I'm leaving!", then you are not the target audience. You are the target audience for fry cook employment opportunities at McDonald's.
Why would a musician use this site instead of giving stuff away for free on Myspace? I don't know, why would anyone use Ebay to sell things instead of giving their shit away for free on a street corner?
Quality artistic effort has value that is larger than zero. Does anyone remember a time when there used to be television shows that had writers and the shows were funny or interesting? Things like Friends, Seinfeld, Cheers, the Muppet Show, A-Team, Knight Rider, I Love Lucy, the Honeymooners, etc. These shows had writers who wrote scripts and actors who played characters. What happened is that those writers and and actors wanted their fair share of the money being made, so the people who owned the airwaves decided to get rid of the writers and replace them with "reality" and get rid of the actors and replace them with "normal people". The result is that most television shows today don't have a story, aren't funny or interesting, and have more advertisements per hour because there are fewer viewers per show because the shows and the networks' reputations have all become crap.
So yes, if you would like to live in a future where the highest quality source of entertainment is videos of people being hit in the crotch with a football or cats doing the Macarena, then by all means, free is the way to go. Screw the "artists" because, hell, I could kick someone in the crotch and put it on YouTube!
Submitted by experima (user info) at 2007-10-30 15:40:55 EDT (#)
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hey, B. glad it's finally up and running.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:53:17 EDT (#)
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Mouth hugs or free drugs...I'll take them both.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:48:27 EDT (#)
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Hug my wiener.
Submitted by beat_raven (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:41:59 EDT (#)
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will it help get me unbanned?
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:40:05 EDT (#)
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Oooooooooooh! Free hugs!!!
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:39:26 EDT (#)
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i'm usually good for a hug.
want one?
Submitted by beat_raven (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:38:15 EDT (#)
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hey - you're passing out hugs?
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:37:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:18:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:22:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:09:29 EDT (#)
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Bart was doing a social experiment for the past 8 months. He has proved that it is entirely possible to live off of the crumbs you retards feed him through the message board. I wish I could evacuate myself from this endless stampede of sub-humans (read: why do I keep coming back?).
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YOU NEVER LEFT, WTF DO YOU MEAN 'COMING BACK'? USING ONE TRANSPARENT ALTER AFTER ANOTHER ISN'T THE SAME AS 'LEAVING.'
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Why don't you get off my nuts, too. I did leave, for about 2 weeks :(
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Didn't mean to make you cry, buddy.
Will a hug make it all better?
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:34:32 EDT (#)
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*duct
I think it's back to bed for me.
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:28:19 EDT (#)
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I would just like to point out that "WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP" (Habeeb's name on the MVA) is directly below Bart's right tear duck.
He is weeping...but WHY?
Discuss.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 14:18:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:22:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:09:29 EDT (#)
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Bart was doing a social experiment for the past 8 months. He has proved that it is entirely possible to live off of the crumbs you retards feed him through the message board. I wish I could evacuate myself from this endless stampede of sub-humans (read: why do I keep coming back?).
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YOU NEVER LEFT, WTF DO YOU MEAN 'COMING BACK'? USING ONE TRANSPARENT ALTER AFTER ANOTHER ISN'T THE SAME AS 'LEAVING.'
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Why don't you get off my nuts, too. I did leave, for about 2 weeks :(
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:37:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:00:25 EDT (#)
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Instead of music, can I post audio of Method's Mom taking is in the ass from a black guy?
Bauahahahahahahahaha...oh...
...and "Yes" you may.
Submitted by BubbaEarl (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:30:52 EDT (#)
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well that's just swell.
if you're going to host videos, i'll sign up and post some of my amatuer NON GAY porn.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:22:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:09:29 EDT (#)
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Bart was doing a social experiment for the past 8 months. He has proved that it is entirely possible to live off of the crumbs you retards feed him through the message board. I wish I could evacuate myself from this endless stampede of sub-humans (read: why do I keep coming back?).
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YOU NEVER LEFT, WTF DO YOU MEAN 'COMING BACK'? USING ONE TRANSPARENT ALTER AFTER ANOTHER ISN'T THE SAME AS 'LEAVING.'
Submitted by triangle_man (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:18:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Fey (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:09:39 EDT (#)
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Now, I'm lazy and foreign which is my excuse for many, many things. Wtf is Paypal, how does it work, and does it work for foreigners? Or are you limiting your artists/audience to Americans?
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You're not foreign here.
As long as you have a credit card....:)
Submitted by Fey (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:09:39 EDT (#)
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Now, I'm lazy and foreign which is my excuse for many, many things. Wtf is Paypal, how does it work, and does it work for foreigners? Or are you limiting your artists/audience to Americans?
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:09:29 EDT (#)
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Bart was doing a social experiment for the past 8 months. He has proved that it is entirely possible to live off of the crumbs you retards feed him through the message board. I wish I could evacuate myself from this endless stampede of sub-humans (read: why do I keep coming back?).
Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2007-10-30 13:00:25 EDT (#)
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Instead of music, can I post audio of Method's Mom taking is in the ass from a black guy?
Submitted by shadow (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:56:27 EDT (#)
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OH DEAR GOD IS UBER BECOMING MAINSTREAM???
Lawdy.
Submitted by keitsith (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:53:42 EDT (#)
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ur cute <3
Submitted by swamp_donkey (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:49:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:25:36 EDT (#)
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YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I DON'T LIKE?
WHEN UBER DORKASSES USE UBERITES' REAL NAMES ON UBER WHEN ADDRESSING THEM.
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Shut up Jeff you little twit.
Submitted by triangle_man (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:47:56 EDT (#)
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will our ratings of your posts here get us a discount on uber.fm??
good buddy?
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:34:00 EDT (#)
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I wish.
I also wish that I actually HAD a secretary.
Submitted by beat_raven (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:30:24 EDT (#)
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oh, Ted, sweetie... how could you SAY that!!?!?!
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:28:03 EDT (#)
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Stop being so angry, Herbert. Think back 12 minutes to the blowjob from your secretary.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:25:36 EDT (#)
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YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I DON'T LIKE?
WHEN UBER DORKASSES USE UBERITES' REAL NAMES ON UBER WHEN ADDRESSING THEM.
I THINK JonnyX started that, and now there are too many morons following suit.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:22:14 EDT (#)
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Well I knew a girl who thought John Elton was the guy who sung 'candle in the wind'
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:21:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:46:01 CDT (#)
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I have ZERO useful suggestions to contribute but I just wanted to say
Hey Strawberry girl! How the hell are ya?
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HOLY SHIT, A PAULA SIGHTING!
Drop me an e-mail hon - it's been a long time. Far too long. captainthorns.at.gmail.com
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:16:07 EDT (#)
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THAT WAS NO TYPO...THAT MISTAKE WAS THE RESULT OF A PRODUCT OF THE MODERN US EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM COMBINED WITH SOMEONE WHO WAS BORN AFTER THE BEATLES BROKE UP.
I REMEMBER THIS ONE TIME I WAS BANGING SOME 22-year-old BROAD AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MUSIC AND SHE SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF:
"Wait...Paul McCartney was in a band before he was in Wings"???
Right after that, I threw my load on her face and left, never to return.
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:09:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:39:15 EDT (#)
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Oh, this link should address a good deal of questions: http://www.uber.fm/faq
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This link just answered quite a few of my questions.
Cheers.
-Dave
Submitted by beat_raven (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:05:30 EDT (#)
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hahahahahaha
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Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:37:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:31:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:26:49 EDT (#)
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If that was good profit analysis, then I'm a fucking SAINT. What dumb shit (not cracking on you berry) can't add 35, 45, 20 to get 100?
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You are right. 35+45+20 is not 100. But 35+45+25 (which is what I wrote) = 100. :)
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good math skills here
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-10-30 12:00:16 EDT (#)
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ya think people have left but then boooom back they come
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:58:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:46:01 EDT (#)
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I have ZERO useful suggestions to contribute but I just wanted to say
Hey Strawberry girl! How the hell are ya?
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Hey there, ya sexy thang. How've YOU been? Shoot me an email sometime. :)
AND SHLONG-O, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SPELLING MISTAKE. JESUS CHRIST. GIVE ME A BREAK, YOU HUSSY.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:53:47 EDT (#)
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Who the fuck are "The Beetles"???
Good grief, it's Tardsville....
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:46:01 EDT (#)
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I have ZERO useful suggestions to contribute but I just wanted to say
Hey Strawberry girl! How the hell are ya?
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:39:15 EDT (#)
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Oh, this link should address a good deal of questions: http://www.uber.fm/faq
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:37:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:31:30 CDT (#)
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CT, interesting aspect, however we all have copyrights to the shit we write here but what control do we have of it?
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Well, I'd say that the "control" is up to each individual here, and how highly they value their original works. I could see established authors like Jack or Brian taking measures to regularly check the 'Net and ensure that no one is plagiarising them, since they do write for profit and bounce a lot of material off of us in this community. On the other end of the spectrum, clearly PFF or Habeeb wouldn't be arsed to take the time to file copyright papers for drivel.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:37:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:31:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:26:49 EDT (#)
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If that was good profit analysis, then I'm a fucking SAINT. What dumb shit (not cracking on you berry) can't add 35, 45, 20 to get 100?
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You are right. 35+45+20 is not 100. But 35+45+25 (which is what I wrote) = 100. :)
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good math skills here
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:34:36 EDT (#)
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*kindly shutting the fuck up and fantasizing about growing lettuce in stwbry's box*
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:33:25 EDT (#)
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Sicosemen, see my response to yours below. This site isn't like Ubersite.com where you can't take things down...
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:31:30 EDT (#)
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CT, interesting aspect, however we all have copyrights to the shit we write here but what control do we have of it?
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:31:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:26:49 EDT (#)
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If that was good profit analysis, then I'm a fucking SAINT. What dumb shit (not cracking on you berry) can't add 35, 45, 20 to get 100?
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You are right. 35+45+20 is not 100. But 35+45+25 (which is what I wrote) = 100. :)
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:30:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:26:49 CDT (#)
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If that was good profit analysis, then I'm a fucking SAINT. What dumb shit (not cracking on you berry) can't add 35, 45, 20 to get 100?
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Perhaps profit analysis is not the correct phrase that I'm searching for, then. An accountant I am not.
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:29:11 EDT (#)
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Right, because in the scenario below, Bart is doing this for free? And this is only good until a band becomes 'successful.' What incentive would a band have to be on some sort of shareware program once/if they become heavily listened to? And how are copyright issues going to be handled?
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You cannot upload things that are copyrighted, like Bart explained below. The $5 would hopefully deter people from uploading The Beetles music. Because he will be glad to take your $5 and then take down the songs. Also, bands can take down their music at anytime...so in your scenario of them "making it big," if they get signed to a label, they can take all of their music down. This is a concept unlike iTunes from what I understand, because there you have to keep all those songs on.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:23:07 EDT (#)
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Pretty good profit analysis there, strwbry, except that you didn't factor in for some of the money going back to Bart for site costs/operations and a small profit to him as well. I don't know exactly how much will end up going back to the artists, but certainly not the full $5, I would think.
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You are right. I think Bart said it's going to be a very small amount, though. So in the profit analysis, you might want to figure that you get 4 cents per song instead of 5. Big deal.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:29:08 EDT (#)
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can't see it working (in a big way, sure it'll coast along quietly for years), artists wouldn't pay to give people their music when they can put it on tunefeeder or myspace or P2P or whatever for free.....and I doubt they'll do it in order to make money off the tune, as if they could do that in a big way they'd be on a bigger site where they'd get more.
I am wrong sometimes though.
Submitted by William_Q_Percy (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:28:57 EDT (#)
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Congrats on the new venture. Hopefully your experience in the online music business will come in handy, I have a feeling that this will be a hard fight to get off the ground.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:27:11 EDT (#)
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Sico - under USA legislation, anything written after April 1, 1989, is automatically protected (in the United States) by an assumed copyright. If you don't transfer the copyright to someone else, it will last 70 years past your date of death.
Of course, one should register with the U.S. Copyright Office so that you can more easily collect damages if your work is copied. This also provides public notice.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:26:49 EDT (#)
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If that was good profit analysis, then I'm a fucking SAINT. What dumb shit (not cracking on you berry) can't add 35, 45, 20 to get 100?
I swear that some of you people are fucking retards (not aimed at CT).
:)
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:25:40 EDT (#)
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thorns showed this to me already.
interesting thing you have going on there. good luck with it.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:23:07 EDT (#)
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Pretty good profit analysis there, strwbry, except that you didn't factor in for some of the money going back to Bart for site costs/operations and a small profit to him as well. I don't know exactly how much will end up going back to the artists, but certainly not the full $5, I would think.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:21:32 EDT (#)
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Right, because in the scenario below, Bart is doing this for free? And this is only good until a band becomes 'successful.' What incentive would a band have to be on some sort of shareware program once/if they become heavily listened to? And how are copyright issues going to be handled?
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:20:31 EDT (#)
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What the fuck are you babbling about?
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:16:54 EDT (#)
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insert the word "able" between "also" and "to" below.
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:15:04 EDT (#)
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Dammit, Bart. I wanted to use my new one on this post. Please hurry and send verification email. KTHNXBAI.
ANYWAY...
I was also to help B-man from the artist perspective (I manage a band, I am not an artist). What interested artists should know is that Bart has integrated the actual USEFUL parts of Sonicbids (which is the leading EPK site) into UBER.FM, so you can adios your Sonicbids membership (thank you baby Jesus). I personally think that this in itself is worth it for bands. That is that bands shouldn't mind paying the $5 per month. I will say more below when I get to a question that someone had. But how much are you paying for Sonicbids, people?
Someone had asked how payment works, and from what I understand from Bart, the following scenario is how it would go down:
A customer, Jane, pays her $5 for November. Jane listens to/downloads 100 total songs that month. $5/100 = 5 cents per song. 40 of Jane's downloads were from Band A; 35 were from Band B; and 25 were from Band C. Therefore, Band A earns $2 from Jane (40 songs x 5 cents each); Band B earns $1.75 from Jane; and Band C earns $1.25.
NOW...I don't know if this would be possible because I'm not sure how Bart has this set up, but one would think that the bands/artists that are interested, but the $5/month fee is deterring them, should theoretically be able to pay the $5/month and then only listen to their own songs if they really wanted to get their $5 back. But honestly...the $5 shouldn't deter bands anyway, because if you have 4 members of a band, that means that all 4 of them can download as much as they want for $5/month. AND NOT ONLY THAT, YOU CAN DITCH SONICBIDS. What a fucking relief.
Stop being cheap, you hussies.
Submitted by Yams (user info) at 2007-10-30 11:04:24 EDT (#)
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OH HELLO BART I SEE THAT YOU ARE UTILIZING HYPERTEXT TRANSFER PROTOCOL, VERY CLEVER OF YOU TO DO SO I MUST ADMIT, YOU HAVE BESTED ME AGAIN.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:48:51 EDT (#)
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so have you sat in a triangle shape yet and tried blowing each other too?
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:46:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:13:14 EDT (#)
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Is it music only? Could it be spoken-word?
GODDAMMIT, I PRAY THAT IT DOESN'T.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:35:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:19:12 CDT (#)
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NO REALLY DO YOU HAVE NAVY SEALS???????
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What are you blithering about? Is this some sort of inside joke?
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:33:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:21:27 CDT (#)
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(i) It don't look too pretty, but it simple to navigate at the moment and I understand that it is still "in progress"
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Yes and yes. Personally, I'll take usability over bling bling any day, but that's just my pref.
(ii) 30 second samples are pretty useless in terms of a "try before you buy" scenario. I just clicked on 2 tracks that I already have, just for testings sake. Both of them had timed out before I really got to the vocal track, which is something I need to hear before I am gonna pay anything.
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Agreed. Maybe Bart can sort out where the samples start and end - right now if I think they all begin around the twenty second mark or so. Or maybe he can rig up some code to allow musicians to define where their samples start and end.
(iii) The Flash player seems to work, which is amazing for me as I can never seem to stream music without a whole lot of buffering. I suspect this is due to low numbers of users right now and might become a little more hit and miss once there is more content/users trying to sample things.
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Ha - that's because I managed to break that Flash player about 548 different ways during pilot testing. :) It shouldn't have any reason to break based on functionality alone due to that, but I'll also be curious to see how it stands up to heavier site load. I use WMP at work with the site and it seems pretty seamless.
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:21:27 EDT (#)
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Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:09:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:01:11 CDT (#)
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One thing I would be interested in is what sort of quality you are gonna be providing for the downloads of people who sign up/pay/etc?
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Actually, you have several options in your account preferences for this. Streaming preferences support MP3 format, from 32kbps through 192kbps and VBR; and download preferences include MP3 and OGG format with the same kbps options. You can also set your default player in that section as well (WMP, iTunes, WinAmp, a simple Uber.fm popup Flash player, etc.
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I was in the middle of doing something (which was strangling my connection) when I spotted this post but have just been over there and checked it out.
First Impressions.
(i) It don't look too pretty, but it simple to navigate at the moment and I understand that it is still "in progress"
(ii) 30 second samples are pretty useless in terms of a "try before you buy" scenario. I just clicked on 2 tracks that I already have, just for testings sake. Both of them had timed out before I really got to the vocal track, which is something I need to hear before I am gonna pay anything.
(iii) The Flash player seems to work, which is amazing for me as I can never seem to stream music without a whole lot of buffering. I suspect this is due to low numbers of users right now and might become a little more hit and miss once there is more content/users trying to sample things.
None of this is really important as I am not a musician so I won't be uploading stuff, but I am a huge music fan and am always on the look out for something new.
Just trying to throw out some ideas purely from a "consumers" point of view.
-Dave
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:19:12 EDT (#)
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NO REALLY DO YOU HAVE NAVY SEALS???????
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:17:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:13:14 CDT (#)
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Is it music only? Could it be spoken-word?
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Yea, any sort of audio is allowed, assuming you own the copyrights to it of course (i.e. no posting another artists's works).
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:16:55 EDT (#)
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hurty its GEEK talk
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:15:13 EDT (#)
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DO YOU HAVE NAVY SEALS?????
Apparently it's mentioned above. I don't do the whole "read the post thing." I just ask questions.
Nevermind.
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:13:30 EDT (#)
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anyone have a link to the Saddam Rap someone did here on uber a few years back?
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:13:25 EDT (#)
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I am completely lost as to what Davros and CT are mumbling about.
<turns on radio>
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:13:14 EDT (#)
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Is it music only? Could it be spoken-word?
Submitted by polyamorousaj (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:12:14 EDT (#)
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Looks cool.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:09:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:01:11 CDT (#)
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One thing I would be interested in is what sort of quality you are gonna be providing for the downloads of people who sign up/pay/etc?
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Actually, you have several options in your account preferences for this. Streaming preferences support MP3 format, from 32kbps through 192kbps and VBR; and download preferences include MP3 and OGG format with the same kbps options. You can also set your default player in that section as well (WMP, iTunes, WinAmp, a simple Uber.fm popup Flash player, etc.
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2007-10-30 10:01:11 EDT (#)
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Kind of an interesting concept.
I will head on over and take a look very shortly.
One thing I would be interested in is what sort of quality you are gonna be providing for the downloads of people who sign up/pay/etc?
If you look at a model like the Live Music Archive (LMA) http://www.archive.org/details/etree which is open source, they have programs which allow you to upload your recordings in lossless FLAC or SHN format, and then select if you want lossy (or more compressed) derivatives made of these (Mp3, Ogg Vorbis etc).
For professionally produced/recorded stuff, it is really not that great a difference, but for home recordings, at the very least, I am gonna want a high bitrate Mp3 (320kbps) or a lossless version.
As an example, I downloaded some of ETS's stuff from a post he made a long time ago listing all the music that had appeared on Uber in the past. I enjoyed a lot of it, but deleted a lot straight away, not because I didn't like the music, just because it was 96kbps Mp3 and sounded pretty terrible. I had the same situation with some of Shlongy's stuff.
Of course that in itself creates an issue of server space and costs.
Would be interested to hear exactly how you plan to implement it.
More thoughts will possibly come shortly.
-Dave
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:52:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-10-29 21:07:28 CDT (#)
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Clicking on the logo DID take me back to the Main Page.
I dunno, I simply ended up on a page with just Thorny givin' me a seductive look. (It creeped me out/turned me on.)
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Heh...the earbud picture? Glad you approve. :)
Submitted by DrogoRoch (user info) at 2007-10-30 08:33:09 CDT (#)
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I don't have a musical bone in my body, but will probably join this so that I can have some of Thornys stuff, which I seem to like when he posts it.
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Thanks Drogo. Do take the time to check out ETS's tunes, though - great stuff, much better than any of my parodies anyway. As I already mentioned I do plan to upload my non-Uber works eventually.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:48:08 EDT (#)
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Like I would rate this anything less than a +2....
Being involved with some end-user testing for this, I can vouch for Bart that the site was a lot of work, and mad props to him for a great concept. I have high hopes for it getting off the ground.
Oh yeah, I'll be posting non-Uber stuffus to the site, after I get some tracks polished up and normalized. For anyone who's interested.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:45:46 EDT (#)
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Well its a nifty idea but I cant really see it catching unless someone really big comes out of it. I have signed up and if i could be bothered to sort out my paypal code I may download , but im not that excited :(
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:34:25 EDT (#)
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I had a look, I think I would pay if there was anything I couldn't get for free.
Can the music be sorted by genre so I can tell if I might like something?
I'm obsessed with comedy podcasts at the moment. Most that you can download are terrible. Worse than terrible. I hope someone puts some good ones up then I will gladly pay $5, even though that is considerably more than a cup of coffee where I live.
Submitted by DrogoRoch (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:33:09 EDT (#)
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I don't have a musical bone in my body, but will probably join this so that I can have some of Thornys stuff, which I seem to like when he posts it. Well that is if it aint too expensive, and he promises not to spend the money on drugs and loose women.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:25:04 EDT (#)
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i don't think there's much incentive right now for artists to sign up then. it could take months and months to get this thing off the ground. why not charge just something really really tiny for a download? ¢10 a song, and you each get a nickel. that's a lot less costly than itunes, enough so i think that cost factor doesn't come into a song. besides, if you allow 30 second samples and we don't hvae to download a whole album i'd be more willing to pay a dime per song than a dollar.
if i had paypal that is.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-10-30 09:13:27 EDT (#)
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Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-10-29 23:05:39 EDT (#)
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The reason to do a monthly fee instead of a per-song charge is that it allows the listeners to listen to whatever they want without needing to make a cost-benefit decision for every song.
In the iTunes model where every song costs $0.99, for $4.95 per month you could get 5 songs. Whoop dee doo. Plus, you have to decide "is this song worth $0.99?" every time you want to get another song. Doing that a couple times a month is no big deal, but when you start buying 1,000 songs per month the charges rack up pretty quickly.
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So how are you going to work out how much the "artists" get paid?
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2007-10-30 08:52:18 EDT (#)
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Good on ya. I hope it takes off.
Submitted by swamp_donkey (user info) at 2007-10-30 08:39:29 EDT (#)
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Bart, touch me. Not just anywhere, but in that special place that makes me feel warm like when I have a urinary tract infection.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-30 08:39:22 EDT (#)
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"Don't quit your dayjob!"
Oops, too late for that.
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2007-10-30 08:24:23 EDT (#)
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Not a bad idea, and I'm glad to hear you're planning on skipping the video. It's the music that is important, not how much of a fuckwad you look like playing it.
I've got a couple of friends and a cousin that will find this interesting.
Good luck in the venture, Mr. Bart.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-10-30 08:18:18 EDT (#)
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God bless Bart Bart; he's finally decided to be an entrepenuer.
Submitted by BranDo (user info) at 2007-10-30 08:00:17 EDT (#)
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Man this really 'sounds' like a great thing.
Will sign up and upload my old stuff, new stuff will come when my studio is ready.
Thank you Mr. Cilfone!
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-10-30 07:39:44 EDT (#)
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I think it's a great idea, and signed up awhile ago. I've got mad connectionz, biznitch.
Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2007-10-30 07:34:13 EDT (#)
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Rammer - even I know how to delete old posts, you can do it already. You wanna delete everything then?
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-10-30 07:28:36 EDT (#)
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http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/1/1c/180px-Doctorwhatposterlarge.jpg
shame its so small
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2007-10-30 07:27:25 EDT (#)
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lol
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-10-30 07:12:46 EDT (#)
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Hurrah the Chuckle Brothers are back in town!
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 07:12:12 EDT (#)
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Oh, and it was a joke, dick hat. Glad to see that this site is serious business once again.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 07:11:43 EDT (#)
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Method, here I was thinking that I completely frozen you off of my balls. Welcome back, chum.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2007-10-30 07:05:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 06:10:40 EDT (#)
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First of all, I don't think "aforepromised" is a recognized word
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Oh STFU sico, you're two chromosomes short of barking
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 06:15:16 EDT (#)
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That being said...I'll mention it to a few friends that are in a "up and coming" band from Baltimore.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-10-30 06:10:40 EDT (#)
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First of all, I don't think "aforepromised" is a recognized word.. Secondly, you meant "forepromised." Actually, I don't know, who cares!
Thirdly, and most importantly: I see this as having great potential for up and coming bands, but who really wants to purchase music that isn't mainstream? Sure, there is a small demographic, much like the down syndrome marching band here on http://www.ubersite.com , that might consider it but you are narrowing your audience. I find myself hard pressed to believe that any 'successful' musician is going to bother with this. Maybe that's the point, and in which case I'll shut the fuck up.
Fourthly, thank you again for everything that I've pestered you with in the past week or so.
Submitted by littledan (user info) at 2007-10-30 04:31:03 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Merlina (user info) at 2007-10-30 03:57:22 EDT (#)
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Hmmm interesting venture. I'll take a look.
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2007-10-30 02:40:33 EDT (#)
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good luck with that. i'll pass on the info to my musicial buddies.
Submitted by beer-turtle (user info) at 2007-10-30 01:40:22 EDT (#)
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sweet concept bart-o.
diggin it.
I have a few musician buddies to swing your way.
Maybe a few DJ's too from my old crew in florida.
If I can find a friggin animator who'll work for free I'll have my damn pilot animated thing episode.
Submitted by Wildman (user info) at 2007-10-30 01:30:15 EDT (#)
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good luck...i hope you grab the brass ring this time
Submitted by Rammer (user info) at 2007-10-30 01:29:15 EDT (#)
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Can you add the "delete your work" function to ubersite? I have some posts that were sub-par.
Submitted by ilikesteak (user info) at 2007-10-30 01:05:29 EDT (#)
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Please?
Submitted by ilikesteak (user info) at 2007-10-30 01:02:57 EDT (#)
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Give Darko his ratings back.
You know you want to.
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-10-30 00:48:56 EDT (#)
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I punted on the whole video thing because of all the other sites that already do video. You could make a video, put it on YouTube, then link to it from this site, but I don't have any plan right now to host videos directly. Since music is normally passive, you could hear the same song a couple times a day every day and not really mind, whereas video requires more active involvement meaning less repeatability and a demand for slightly higher production values. The 5 minutes of active engagement it takes to watch a bad video is a bigger waste that the 5 minutes of passive hearing it takes to listen to a bad song.
If I really thought I could do video better than YouTube, Revver, Metacafe, FunnyOrDie, CollegeHumor, and the rest of the clone sites, then I would go for it. I'd rather spend my time making the music stuff kick more ass than building a sucky video implementation.
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Submitted by kuroneko_sama (user info) at 2007-10-29 23:38:19 CDT (#)
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you look like the illigitamate love child of harold ramus and david byrne
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You look like the love child of your face and my fist.
Submitted by ColchesterDr (user info) at 2007-10-30 00:48:35 EDT (#)
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Good luck with that.
Submitted by earth_collapse (user info) at 2007-10-30 00:46:58 EDT (#)
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Sounds absolutely ridiculous... good luck!
Submitted by kuroneko_sama (user info) at 2007-10-30 00:38:19 EDT (#)
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you look like the illigitamate love child of harold ramus and david byrne
Submitted by Danger_Ranger (user info) at 2007-10-30 00:31:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2007-10-29 22:42:59 EDT (#)
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If I know ubersite, and I think I do, there will be lots of sign ups, and lots of recorded MP3's hurling abuse at 'negros' 'gays' 'rape victims' 'autists' and 'pedos'.
IT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME!!!!
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liek....omg.
bart I'd like to renege on the banning dare thing, <dusts of lapels, straighten glasses>, hey, you're a good looking guy when they sit a little higher on your nose.
Submitted by shandythedog (user info) at 2007-10-29 23:47:31 EDT (#)
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is there any possiblity of a video element to go with the music?
i'm very keen to launch some numbers, but the live video clips are essential elemlents of my art.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2007-10-29 23:41:28 EDT (#)
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Hmmm...actually, that explains how hidden got all rich and stuff.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2007-10-29 23:36:11 EDT (#)
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Crystle says:
We can get paid per camwhore?
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Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2007-10-29 22:24:53 EDT (#)
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If we don't have any real talent, can we camwhore?
Submitted by ilikesteak (user info) at 2007-10-29 23:29:34 EDT (#)
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So in theory, I can pay the 5, then download every song on the site?
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-10-29 23:29:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2007-10-29 22:39:01 EDT (#)
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Well, at least we know you weren't sitting around, watching tv, and scratching your balls.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH SITTING AROUND WATCHING TV AND SCRATCHING MY BALLS?
I've been doing that all night.
Hell, I've been doing that for 25 years.
Although, if it's that bad, feel free to come over and give me a hand.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2007-10-29 23:22:07 EDT (#)
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Irony
Submitted by netimportant (user info) at 2007-10-29 23:18:46 EDT (#)
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